US TV news: Zero evidence to prove MH17 shot down by pro Russian rebels

Little nicky and his friends at Boggart Blog have had our share of fun with shills for America’s war of economic salavtion, who seem to be getting more and more upset with us. The problem is of course that right after malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 was brought down over Ukraine, we said calims by US President Barack Obama that US military surveillance agents had ‘compelling evidence’ the pro Rusdian separatists in Ukraine had shot down the aircraft seemed a little too quick off the mark and made the disaster look like another US sponsored false flag attack.

The pro war shills said, “It was the rebels, Barack Obama said so and what evidence could be more conclusive than that.”

Since then of course, Little Nicky and Boggart Blog have produced mountains of evidence pointing to the US / EU supported illegal neo fascist regime in Kiev having carried out the attack. This has come from souces as diverse as Malaysian Newspaper New Straits Times, Times of India, Huffington Post, The Socialist Network, and independent American and German military aviation experts (find all our posts on the topic HERE

The shills keep banging away, trying to discredit any evidence offered, but are easily swatted away. So far they have despite having been challenged to do so on many occasions.

Let’s see what they make of this summing up of the lack of evidence against the rebels, from AMTV, an american news magazine program that goes out on the MTV channel.

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MH17 – Little Nicky Machiavelli Told You So

Well once again Little Nicky was bang on (although it must be said that while evidence that Ukrainian jets shot down the Malaysian Airlines Boeing 777 is impressive it is not quite conclusive ,) but read the information and make up your own mind. And don’t be influenced by any clown who might come along and announce that he said ‘science, science, science’ and there was a flas h of lightning, a clap of thunder and he found himself back in Kansas suddenly all the answers were revealed to him.

Evidence Is Now Conclusive: 2 Ukrainian Government SU-25 Fighter Jets Did Shoot Down that Malaysian Airliner. No ‘Buk’ Missile Ground-Shot Was Involved.

from Eric Zuesse – RINF

Further to my July 31st article, “First Examination of Malaysian MH-17 Cockpit Photo Shows Ukraine Government Shot that Plane Down,” have provided links and leads to independent additional confirmatory evidence, to such an extent that I now feel confident enough to say that the evidence on this matter is, indeed, “conclusive.” Here is all of that evidence, which collectively convinces me that pilot Peter Haisenko’s conclusion there, is, indeed, the only one that can even possibly explain this wreckage:

“There have been two or three pieces of fuselage that have been really pockmarked with what almost looks like machine-gun fire, very very strong machine-gun fire.” This remarkable statement comes not from Haisenko, but from one of the first OSCE investigators who arrived at the scene of the disaster. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ze9BNGDyk4 and it’s right there.

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A few days after Heisenko’s bombshell, a second German military aviation expert came to the same conclusion.

We still await the “compelling evidence” Barack Obama claimed the USA held which “proved beyond doubt” that pro Russian separatists in Ukraine were responsible. The US government has been back peddaling for a week and their latest idiocy is that the “black box” flight recorder will reveal the truth of what happened.

It will not of course, it will only prove that the aircraft was ripped apart by an explosion which was caused by a missile hit. The flight recorder cannot know who fired the missile or what type of missile it was. Similarly the claim that the black box voice recording of the pilot and co pilot’s final verbal exchanges may confirm that either the missile was fired from the ground or from the two Ukranian air force jets that were shadowing the Boeing, but if it was fired from the ground, pilots in a plane flying at 32000 feet cannot have seen who fired it (particularly since the crew of a BUK missile launcher are in an enclosed compartment.

Forensic examination of the wreckage may identify what type of explosive was used, where it was made and where the missile was made. But again we know that the Ukraine military have Russian missiles armed with Russian warheads which are presumably armed with Russian explosive. The Russians also have this kit and it is possible the rebels got hold of such hardware too, although it is not known whether they did.

What I’m saying here, having been anti – war since the 1960s myself, is pay no heed to the warmongers who call themselves ‘the left’, ‘liberals’ or ‘progressives’. Their bids to start wider conflicts over Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq and Syria have failed and now their destabilisation of Ukraine in the hope of provoking Russia has failed.

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Funny How A Few Days Good Weather Brings The Warmageddonists Out

Over the past few scorching hot days I have seen several members of the alomst defunct Warmageddonist society plugging their tired, discredited old “science” and trying to claim that mathematics proves that what is observably not happening is actually happening but only scientists are clever enough to understand that.

Hmm, is that so?

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Nobody in the Climate Modelling Community Foresaw 17 years Without Surface Warming

Principal Research Scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, Roy Spencer talks with James about where the missing heat has gone. Is it, as climate alarmists claim, hiding at the bottom of the oceans? “All kinds of things are theoretically possible”, says Roy.

But not all things are very likely. Instead, Roy’s research suggests that half the observed global warming can be explained more simply than by computer models, which try to pin the blame for all the warming on humans, and have famously failed to predict the pause in global warming.

Watch the video above to learn more …

 
 

Now as many respected physicists including Freeman Dyson have pointed out, the “magic gas” hypothesis of back radiation warming violates the Laws of Thermodynamics*. But as far as Warmageddonist which is not required training for a PhD in the defective climate alchemy science club.

The problem is the real scientists such as Freeman Dyson rely on empirical evidence, the Warmageddonists rely on mathematical modelling and the Mike Mann law of climate dynamics, which states “If the data does not provide the answer you want, the data must be wrong and can be ignored. Thus Mann created his notorious Hockey Schtick Graph by ignoring the Medieval Warm Period which, using such data is is available (measuing tree rings in bog oaks) showed the mean temperature was higher than it is now.

*The author of the linked article notes; “All I want to present here is the simple proof that thermodynamics textbooks don’t teach the false ideas circulating the internet about the second law of thermodynamics.”

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