Last week Little Nicky relayed reports (yes, relayed; in spite of what some authoritarians would have you believe, I don’t make this stuff up, it’s all reported) accounts of two German aviation experts who testified that their examination of photographs showing wreckage from around the cockpit area of the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 shot down over Ukraine were consistent with heavy calibre machine gun fire, which suggested the plane had been shot down by fighter jets or as one suggested by a type of air to air missile which would cause similar damage.
An SU27 Jet Fighter (wikimedia commons)
Nobody had complete information at the time but it had been reported (erroniously as it turns out) that the Ukrainian Air Force had two Russian built SU25 fighters shadowing flight MH17.
A a visitor signed in as “Jim” commented rather triumphantly (which made me suspect Jim could be a member of this community who has tried to challenge me on this issue before and been comprehensively twatted) that the SU25 fighter is a low altitude aircraft designed for ground support operations and was not capable of flying alongside the Boeing which was cruising at 33,000 feet.
Correct. But the triumphalism was misplaced. The reports of the German experts triggered a wave of investigation into the version of events published by the FUKUS axis sponsored government in Kiev. This quickly revealed that the Ukraine Military Air Force also has SU27 fighters (nicknamed by NATO air forces “the flanker” – hmmmm. The SU27 is built by the same maker and has a service ceiling of over 60,000 feet.
So far Kiev is denying that any of their warplanes were airborne at the time over east Ukraine, but eye witnesses and technological data testify that flight MH17 was being flanked by two smaller aircraft.
The problem people like Jim, who desperately want to believe the Americans are the good guys, have in dealing with this kind of incident it they find it all too easy to persuade themselves to believe the narrative constructed in the first propaganda releases. These accounts are the ones published by sensationalist tabloids and swallowed by many people. Which is fine unless those people then try to pass themselves off as authorities on the subject.
The more level headed will of course be aware that in a case like this it can be weeks, even months before we start to get anywhere near the truth. And so we wait to see what emerges, and consider every piece of evidence and every opinion from every angle.
There is still no evidence that points to who actually shot down Flight MH17 (the “compelling evidence” Barack Obama claimed to have turned out to be nothing more than social media chatter) but whereas the shills for war have as yet produced nothing of substance, those who suspect a false flag as justification for war are being well served with reports from various sources.
You can read a full and unbiased analysis (none of the “President Obama likes gays so that proves the Russians are responsible,” left wing bullshit) titled “Systematically Reconstructing the Shoot-Down of the Malaysian Airliner: The Guilt Is Clear and Damning” with plenty of links to authoritative sources, or alternatively take a look at this story from Malaysia newspaper and online news site New Straits Times: MH17: Pockmarks look like from very, very heavy machine gun fire, says first OSCE monitor on-scene
An interesting snippet from that story tells us:
In a damning report dated Aug 3, headlined Flight 17 Shoot-Down Scenario Shifts, Associated Press reporter Robert Parry said some US intelligence sources had concluded that the rebels and Russia were likely not at fault and that it appears Ukrainian government forces were to blame.
Remember, consider every piece of evidence and all opinions from every angle. And don’t be impressed just because somebody waves a PhD at you and says he’s a scientist. I’ve met many scientists in my career and outside their very narrow field of expertise (which is mostly confined to theory) most of them were CHIMPS (Completely Hopeless In Most Practical Situations)
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