Muammar ‘Mad Dog’ Gaddafi maintained a brutal kind of social order in Libya
Occasionally we have the great good fortune to stumple upon a fully paid up, card carry member of the Idiots Association. There’s one visits my threads occasionally, usually announcing that he ‘works in a university’ as if that make his opinions more valuable than those of us who live and work in the real world and deal with its harsh realities every day, rather than spending our lives cocooned in the embrace of a cloistered environment.
His most recent contribution was to accuse me of being gullible enough to believe Russian propaganda about the downing of Flight MH17 over Ukraine. You can see for yourselves that my post What The Media Is Not Writing About MH17 did not say that I believe the Russians, only that I doubt the hastily composed narrative put out by the American Government claiming they had irrefutable evidence that Russia was directly involved. A position that has now been proved correct by the American government’s failure to supply any evidence and actually backing of from their position of blaming Russia. (look at the comment thread to see the guy wrigging rather than admit he’d been wrong again.)
Apparently the idea that in the absence of evidence there may be more than two possible answers to a problem is apparently too complex for those who work in higher education. We may assume however from this person’s belief that everything is either back or white that he has not heard of Fifty Shades Of Gray.
An earlier intervention from him, on a post in which I justified my opposition to military intervention in Libya by pointing out that the rabble of gangsters and warlords that passed for government after the fall of Gaddafi was worse than when the old Mad Dog was in power.
Our colleague jumped in to say that I could not seriously be suggesting that what existed in Libya under Gadaffi could be called law and order. Well all things are relative (another concept too difficult for the intellectual left)and yes, there was a brutal kind of order under Gadaffi as there was in Syria before the west sponsored a rebellion against Assad).
And what do the people of Libya have to endure now you might well ask?
Libya is descending into a civil war spiral that is “much worse” than the unrest that toppled its dictator Moamar Gaddafi in 2011, residents fleeing the country said Saturday.
“We have gone through (war) before, with Gaddafi, but now it’s much worse,” Paraskevi Athineou, a Greek woman living in Libya, told AFP.
“Chaos reigns. There is no government, we have no food, no fuel, no water, no electricity for hours on end,” she said.
Athineou was part of a group of 186 people evacuated from Tripoli by a Greek navy frigate which reached the port of Piraeus early on Saturday.
In addition to 77 Greek nationals, there were 78 Chinese, 10 Britons, 12 Cypriots, seven Belgians, one Albanian and a Russian.
Among them were several diplomats, including the Chinese ambassador to Libya.
Libya has suffered chronic insecurity since Gaddafi’s overthrow in 2011, with the new government unable to check militias that helped to remove him and facing a growing threat from Islamist groups.
“So many people died to make the country better. But now we started killing each other in a civil war,? said Osama Monsour, a 35-year-old employed at a non-governmental organisation in Tripoli.
Fighting between rival militias in Tripoli has forced the closure of the city’s international airport, while Islamist groups are also battling army special forces in the eastern city of Benghazi.
“War is in the city… and we civilians are under fire from both sides,” Athineou said.
“It is worse than 2011,” said Ali Gariani, a Libyan married to a Greek woman.
“That time were were being bombed by NATO. But now we are being bombed by the Libyans themselves, and that is really shameful,” he said.
As always I was right. Sadly with mainstream news media in the west becoming more of a government / corporate propaganda machine with every week that goes by, it often takes a while for events to prove me right.
So I wonder how many Libyans will have to die before our leftie friends will climb down off their high horse, start blaming the FUKUS axis and
taking it leading from behind’ Obama for this mess. When they have done that they can admit they were wrong and then fuck the fucking fuck off back to their ivory towers, leaving the thinking to grown ups.
Lawless, Leaderless Libya Becoming Terror Hub
As the French government calls for international action to halt the development of Libya, a failed state since Gadaffi was deposed, as a hub of international terrorism, we wonder when western leaders will learn that all their interventions so far, Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt, Syria, Ukraine, Mali, South Sudan etc. have caused far bigger problems that the ones they hoped to solve.
Another Obama Sponsored Genocide – not Alawi or Christians In Syria but Yazidi in Iraq.